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"Jerry Lucky's" (Progressiveland's) Commentary

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Commentary-By "Jerry Lucky"

Neo-Prog Misconceptions - 7 through 11:

Greetings once again. There are probably some who were wondering if in fact there could be any more misconceptions about Neo-Prog. Well in fact yes there are. And just when you thought it was safe to come out of hiding...here are Neo-Prog misconceptions 7 through 11. I'm sure you see as we work our way through to the last one (there are 13 in total) that the case for using the term gets pretty flimsy. Read on... ***

Misconception #7 – Neo-Prog is more accessible, mainstream and popular I guess the obvious question here is; more accessible to whom? Even a band such as Jadis who many would say are less about complexity and more about songs with certain Progressive Rock embellishments would have a hard time making inroads in mainstream media. Let’s not forget many of those prog bands from the Seventies wound up playing huge stadiums. Which of the so called, more popular, more accessible or more mainstream Neo-Prog bands have done this? In fact, none of them have. In the advertising media world I exist in, we have an expression that describes individuals who essentially live in the bubble of their own passion, whatever that may be. When you’re inside the bottle, it’s impossible to read the label. Meaning that if you live in a bottle where prog is a musical passion, it is pointless to compare that to the mainstream world, outside the bottle where prog isn’t even on the radar. Our observations regarding accessibility, mainstream potential and even popularity are all tainted by not only our love of prog but our difficulty in sometimes seeing prog from outside the bottle where music exists in the larger context. Out there, in the world of rigidly controlled radio formats, visually enticing music videos and Simon Cowells, Progressive Rock is so not there. ***

So the idea that Neo-Prog is by its very nature more accessible seems at odds with whom it’s actually created for and who’s actually buying it. The last time I looked those Pendragon CD’s weren’t flying off the local chain store shelves with the general record buying public. Obviously, for someone whose main listening fare includes complex Prog fusion, RIO and Zeuhl or early Gentle Giant then much of the Symphonic genre is going to sound a little tame. On the other hand if you were to play even the tamest of Symphonic Prog for your non-prog friends, what do you think their reaction would be? You’ve probably been there, right? I know I have and it’s usually a disheartening experience as they describe the music as “too busy” or words to that effect, and that was Spock’s Beard! Clearly there is no way possible to accurately describe Neo-Prog bands as more accessible, mainstream or popular. ***

· Misconception #8 – Neo-Prog is identified by the digital keyboard sounds Of all the misconceptions outlined here, this has to be one of the weakest when it comes to singling out a group of bands. From the very beginnings of rock and roll, technology has played a part in forming the sound of each era. This was true of guitar technology during the sixties and keyboard technology of the seventies. The sounds musicians make are a reflection of the day. Every era has had its distinct signature sounds in some respect. Fact was in the mid-Eighties everyone, in every musical genre was using the mother of all digital synthesizers, the Yamaha DX-7. It had only recently come on the market and the temptation to use its new sounds was so very tempting. So to single out a few prog bands that were also using these new digital sounds seems picayune beyond comprehension. Are we now placing some arbitrary “higher” standard on prog artists and their choice of instruments? Who is it that is entitled to impose this “higher” standard? ***

The mere fact that the bands of the progressive rock resurgence of the Eighties actually incorporated these new sounds into their musical pallet is in my eyes more of an indication that they were taking the progressive symphonic style into a new age. Just as Rick Wakeman incorporated new technology side by side with old (Moog synthesizer with the Hammond organ), so too these bands were incorporating the new with the old (digital with analog.) Regardless of the sounds ultimately created, the use of new technology is very much an integral part of Progressive Rock and certainly no reason to marginalize those who do so. ***

· Misconception #9 – Neo-Prog never attainted the popularity of prog in the Seventies One of the misconceptions that certain aficionados will point to, in some sense of self-justification is that Neo-Prog never attained the popularity of prog in the Seventies. They may be referring to the popularity with the masses or perhaps the popularity within the prog community. While this may or may not be true it has more to do with the changing nature of the business rather than the music itself. Just for the record, the original bands from the Seventies are no where near as popular with the mass population today as they used to be simply because they have been extricated from the radio and television. I remember talking about the YES CD Magnification to a manager at work and his response was an incredulous, “they’re still together?” And he was a big YES fan. The point is that many of those so-called popular prog bands of the Seventies suffer in obscurity today. ***

To suggest that because Neo-Prog failed to win the popularity vote somehow seems to me to be at odds with a previous misconception that Neo-Prog is more accessible, more popular and more mainstream. Which is it? Setting aside that little conundrum, let’s consider this from a different perspective. Given the global nature of Progressive Rock today fuelled by the World Wide Web if we were actually able to add up individuals around the world, I think we might just find that there are actually more people in the fan pool today than there ever were in the Seventies, it’s simply spread out around the globe. The existing popularity of all genres of Progressive Rock bands is not something the mass media exposure focuses on, that’s all. They’re too busy talking about their own manufactured flavour of the month.

Misconception #10 – Neo-Prog is lacking in originality The history of music is replete with critics who failed to recognize true talent standing in their midst. This may not be a great example but its worth considering that many of Beethoven’s compositions were panned by the critics of his day. When confronted about this, Beethoven is claimed to have said “Oh, those are not for you, but for a later age.” Now before you get your panties in a bunch, I’m certainly not comparing Beethoven with Neo-Prog. I’m not. I understand that Beethoven was forging a new tradition while the so-called “Neo” bands are creating within an established tradition, that of Symphonic Progressive Rock. But what I am calling into question here is the suggestion that “it all lacks originality.” This is simply a gross overstatement that needs to be challenged. ***

First some ground work. The history of music is one where a new idea would be created by a composer(s) and developed, modified and tweaked until it was more or less consolidated into an established tradition. The established tradition would then be the popular music of the day and persist for any number of years. This process might take as long as fifty years to happen before some new idea would take composers in another direction building on the shoulders of what had gone before to create another new tradition. This paradigm has essentially been neutered with the advent of technology. Today the world of music is advancing at such a pace that for the most part consolidation fails to take hold. In many respects the trade-off of having quick and easy access to music has meant that the masses are being driven my media and technology to seek out any number of musical fads. Essentially whatever your heart desires is available. Today all forms of music from electronic to symphonic operate fluidly within well established traditions. ***

But back to the point, what’s really being said by the claim of lacking in originality? Pallas’ Dreams of Men and IQ’s Dark Matter are full or original rhythms combined with many original musical compositional moments arranged in very original ways. So what’s with this “lacking in originality” thing? The very idea of originality can be called into question for every prog sub-genre. Based on such a strict definition we could also claim that Magma’s second or third albums were lacking in originality. If you are going down that path, you could say bands like Ange, Focus, and ELP often repeated themselves. The claim of lacking in originality is a very slippery slope. Where do you draw the line? ***

I believe the criticism of lacking originality is an epithet far too easily and quickly hurled at Progressive Rock in general. We seem to be so caught up in a move to the future that we expect to see a relativistic originality displayed that is measured only by the critic’s arbitrary standards. Referring again to Pallas and IQ, both have taken their sound on each successive recording one step further on the creative process. There is nothing lacking in originality and we must always be cautious about confusing performance with preference. Just because we don’t like what we hear doesn’t necessarily mean our criticism of it is right. I’m reminded of something Albert Einstein said, “Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Neo-Prog isn’t so much about a lack of originality as it is about being tarred and feathered with a flawed brush. ***

· Misconception 11 – Neo-Prog is by definition limiting in musical scope I suppose if all you listened to were three or four Neo-Prog bands you might come to such a conclusion, but given the continued growth of the Symphonic prog genre (which I maintain includes Neo-Prog) there is no way to substantiate this claim. Within the Symphonic musical framework, you have bands constantly pulling in outside sources and incorporating these new musical ideas into an ever expanding musical catalog. Not only are the traditional sources of jazz, folk and classical still explored, but so are ethnic influences as well as other non-traditional rock musical categories such as electronic and ambient. ***

If you look at the many bands identified as Neo-Prog, you will quickly see that far from their musical approach being “limited in musical scope” you find there is a wealth of variety and diversity in their compositions. Some will take the more aggressive guitar approach and others a more keyboard approach, but still incorporating a variety of non-rock influences. To my mind, all of this avoids the central issue, and that is that Neo-Prog as part of the entire Symphonic genre continues to draw on probably a larger spectrum of influences than many other progressive genres. It can do so not only because it has a rich history of this compositional inclusion but also simply because it can. ***

So there you go. Some more to chew on till next when we'll wrap this little diatribe up once and for all. Till then, that's what I think. Your views are welcomed. Drop me an email anytime. Jerry

 

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